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{{JP|'''刹那'''|Setsuna}} is one of the three songs by [[Dir En Grey]] that were never properly released and only performed live in their indies era from [[Dir En Grey/1997|1997]] to [[Dir En Grey/1998|1998]]. The other two are [[藍紫色]] and [[新曲2]]. However, this song was eventually reworked and released as [[Unknown…Despair…a Lost|Unknown{{Ellipsis}}Despair{{Ellipsis}}a Lost]].
{{JP|'''刹那'''|Setsuna}} is one of the four unreleased [[Dir En Grey]] songs from the band's indies era ([[Dir En Grey/1997|1997]] to [[Dir En Grey/1998|1998]]). The other three are [[新曲2]], [[新曲6]] and [[藍紫色]].


The first confirmed performance of 刹那 was on [[1997.05.31|May 31]] and its last known performance was on [[1997.09.15|September 15]], 1997. By [[1997.10.28|October 28]], the song was heavily reworked, but still retained its original title, as seen on that day's setlist and in its live report, both published in ''SHOXX'' #59 (January 1998). Afterwards, the song's title was likely changed to {{JP|新曲6|Shinkyoku 6}} ("New Song 6") for a short while, as Kaoru is asked about a song with that title in ''FOOL'S MATE'' #198 (April 1998). He explains that he felt the need to change the title because the song had changed too much. While there's currently no other known mention of 新曲6, taking the date of the interview into account, he was most likely talking about 刹那. The first published use of "Unknown{{Ellipsis}}Despair{{Ellipsis}}a Lost" as the song's title can be found in ''SHOXX'' #62 (April 1998), on the setlist for [[1998.01.14|January 14, 1998]].
刹那 is unique among the four songs for two reasons: It has no known working title in the form of {{JP|新曲|Shinkyoku}} and a number, and it is the only one to have been reworked and properly recorded in a studio setting. It was also performed the earliest of the four songs, with its first known performance taking place on [[1997.05.31|May 31, 1997]]. Its last known performance before being heavily reworked was on [[1997.09.15|September 15]] that year. By [[1997.10.28|October 28]], the song was performed with a new structure, but retained its original title, as seen on that day's setlist and in its live report, both published in ''SHOXX'' #59 (January 1998). Sometime between October 1997 and January 1998, the reworking would lead to the song being renamed to [[Unknown…Despair…a Lost|Unknown{{Ellipsis}}Despair{{Ellipsis}}a Lost]]. This new song title was first used in ''SHOXX'' #62 (April 1998) on the setlist for [[1998.01.14|January 14, 1998]].


However, it's unknown when exactly the song received its interim and final title, as both the interview (where it's called 新曲6) and the setlist (where it's called Unknown{{Ellipsis}}Despair{{Ellipsis}}a Lost) were published in April. While the setlist was most likely provided to the live report's author on the day of the live, the interview was conducted sometime after the live. As such, it's unknown why the song is still called 新曲6 in the interview.
In ''Bandやろうぜ'' (July 1998), Kaoru reiterates that Unknown{{Ellipsis}}Despair{{Ellipsis}}a Lost is the remade version of a song that previously existed. This was confirmed years later by Shinya in the ''MINERVA -THE UNRAVELING-'' photobook, published in 2013. In 2020, Kaoru used the setlist of the [[1997.06.14|June 14, 1997]] live with this song on it as a t-shirt design. This marks the first known time the song was publicly recognised by a band member since their indies days, aside from Shinya's aforementioned explanation in 2013. In June 2023, Shinya took to Twitter to clarify that 新曲6 was not the working title for 刹那 and instead a completely different song.
 
In ''Bandやろうぜ'' (July 1998), Kaoru reiterates that Unknown{{Ellipsis}}Despair{{Ellipsis}}a Lost is the remade version of a song that previously existed. This was confirmed years later by Shinya in the ''MINERVA -THE UNRAVELING-'' photobook, published in 2013. In 2020, Kaoru used the setlist of the [[1997.06.14|June 14, 1997]] live, where this song was performed, as a t-shirt design. This marks the first known time the song was publicly recognised by a band member since their indies days, aside from Shinya's aforementioned explanation in 2013.


You can listen to the May 31, 1997, performance of the song [https://youtu.be/otFkcXjmFus here].
You can listen to the May 31, 1997, performance of the song [https://youtu.be/otFkcXjmFus here].
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== Trivia ==
* As mentioned before, Dir En Grey began performing the [[Unknown…Despair…a Lost|Unknown{{Ellipsis}}Despair{{Ellipsis}}a Lost]] version of this song beginning with the live on October 28, 1997. The 刹那 version was last performed on September 15, 1997, making it the Dir En Grey song that hasn't been performed for the longest time.
** The studio song that holds this record is [[霧と繭]], which was last performed on [[1997.10.30|October 30, 1997]]. Incidentally, this was also the last live at which 刹那 was performed with this title.


== Trivia ==
=== Variants ===
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! Title || Release
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| 新曲6 || –
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| Unknown{{Ellipsis}}Despair{{Ellipsis}}a Lost || [[JEALOUS (1998)]][[Category:Song With Different Versions]]
|}
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Latest revision as of 20:18, 19 June 2023

刹那 (Setsuna) is one of the four unreleased Dir En Grey songs from the band's indies era (1997 to 1998). The other three are 新曲2, 新曲6 and 藍紫色.

刹那 is unique among the four songs for two reasons: It has no known working title in the form of 新曲 (Shinkyoku) and a number, and it is the only one to have been reworked and properly recorded in a studio setting. It was also performed the earliest of the four songs, with its first known performance taking place on May 31, 1997. Its last known performance before being heavily reworked was on September 15 that year. By October 28, the song was performed with a new structure, but retained its original title, as seen on that day's setlist and in its live report, both published in SHOXX #59 (January 1998). Sometime between October 1997 and January 1998, the reworking would lead to the song being renamed to UnknownDespaira Lost. This new song title was first used in SHOXX #62 (April 1998) on the setlist for January 14, 1998.

In Bandやろうぜ (July 1998), Kaoru reiterates that UnknownDespaira Lost is the remade version of a song that previously existed. This was confirmed years later by Shinya in the MINERVA -THE UNRAVELING- photobook, published in 2013. In 2020, Kaoru used the setlist of the June 14, 1997 live with this song on it as a t-shirt design. This marks the first known time the song was publicly recognised by a band member since their indies days, aside from Shinya's aforementioned explanation in 2013. In June 2023, Shinya took to Twitter to clarify that 新曲6 was not the working title for 刹那 and instead a completely different song.

You can listen to the May 31, 1997, performance of the song here.

Trivia

  • As mentioned before, Dir En Grey began performing the UnknownDespaira Lost version of this song beginning with the live on October 28, 1997. The 刹那 version was last performed on September 15, 1997, making it the Dir En Grey song that hasn't been performed for the longest time.
    • The studio song that holds this record is 霧と繭, which was last performed on October 30, 1997. Incidentally, this was also the last live at which 刹那 was performed with this title.

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Mini-Albums MISSA (1997)six Ugly (2002)THE UNRAVELING (2013)
Singles JEALOUS (1998)-I'll- (1998)脈 (2000)【KR】cube (2000)太陽の碧 (2000)ain't afraid to die (2001)embryo (2001)かすみ (2003)朔-saku- (2004)GLASS SKIN (2008)激しさと、この胸の中で絡み付いた灼熱の闇 (2009)LOTUS (2011)DIFFERENT SENSE (2011)輪郭 (2012)SUSTAIN THE UNTRUTH (2014)人間を被る (2018)The World of Mercy (2019)落ちた事のある空 (2020)朧 (2021)19990120 (2024)The Devil In Me (2024)
Cassette Tapes 業 / 蒼い月 (1997)1997.6.14 目黒鹿鳴館 (1997)1997.6.27 COWBOY WORLD (1997)
VHS 「楓」~if trans~ (1997)「楓」~if trans~ TOUR 1998 Mechanism For Leave-the scene of the tragedy- (1998)「楓」~if trans~ Mechanism For Leave-UnknownDespaira Lost- ~裁きの血舞台~ (1998)妄想統覚劇 (1998)妄想格外劇 (1998)
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Cover Songs 親愛なるDEATHMASKINSANITYワルシャワの幻想EASY MAKE,EASY MARKNATIONAL MEDIA BOYS
List of all covered songs on setlist.fm
Features 葬送絶彩 feat. 京Witch Huntアンプサイ
Other Songs INWARD SCREAMSE新曲2藍紫色 (新曲5) • 新曲6刹那